look at the economy, everything except for housing has been contracting. today we have the p.m.i.s coming out of china, europe, and the u.s. that's going to give us a very good indication of whether we're contracting or whether we're growing. i can't leverage the fact that the stock market will go one way or the other because of it, because it seems like we're all looking around that right now, but, the bigger picture is, if we're not growing the manufacturing base, are stock market cannot sustain itself for very long. > > all right. so, if there is a strong negative in these p.m.i.s, what should that tell you? that there might be a pullback in the overall stock markets? > > absolutely. i mean, at some point, people have to look around at what the governments and federal reserve is doing, and look at the fact that, "hey, maybe we're contracting and not growing." we're not going in the right direction. so, thereby, we could see a very healthy stock market correction if the p.m.i.s are going the wrong way. > > all right, we'll learn soon enough. larry shover, thanks so much. > > you'